RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 14, 2015 at 8:58 am
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2015 at 9:16 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 13, 2015 at 10:05 am)SteveII Wrote: I should have distinguished between ontological/philosophical and methodological naturalism. My post referred to the former. Theists have been practicing methodological naturalism for a millennium.-and that's what matters the most, to me. People can "believe" in whatever they like..so long as when they go about doing work..they run with something a little less fanciful, a little less fraudulent..something that works.
Quote:If scientism is the view that we should only believe what we can prove scientifically, then it is incoherent to think that Christianity or theistic scientists hold this view.Hardly, when confronted with people who feel that god has been or can be proven by ID. You're being co-opted from within by the very position you abhor, and the only thing that makes this more delicious to me..is that the "science" they've hung their christian hats on is nonsense.
Quote:Your rant against ID does not answer the question what happens when science cannot explain the origin of life? The longer they fail to do that, isn't logical to assume that people will begin to questions scientism?I already answered that question. If we don't find the origin of life we don't find it. I hope people question science constantly -even if we do find that origin-....that's kind of the point. I know, I know, you asked me about "scientism", but...to you...it's "science" when it concludes god and "scientism" when it doesn't.
@Ath, "dismantling atheism's arguments" is a monumental waste of effort and resources. At best it would lead to pyrrhic victory...but whats it's been leading to, instead..here in the US - is atheism. Atheism does not require an argument in the first place...and dismantling any argument offered would not establish the truth of a god. What must be done, as always, is for the god believers to either hang their hats on belief -no argument required- or make -their own case- for a god of knowledge or evidence. I'm not holding my breath on the later, and never understood why the former has become so dirty to the faithful.
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