RE: My Rebuttal to Dawkins Argument
December 23, 2015 at 4:50 pm
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm by Pat Mustard.)
(December 23, 2015 at 1:50 pm)Mohammed - Muslim and Proud Wrote: 1. The Creator is called The Creator, so how can the Creator have a creator if he is The Creator?
You still haven't answered the question, "if everything which exists was created by something else, what created god?"
Quote:2. The question can be turned around, which will allow me to ask: " If the universe created man, then who created the universe? "
What point are you trying to make? Man exists because the universe exists, that much is given, but your question makes no sense.
Quote:3. Only do things in our galaxy and universe and space-time, require a creator. God is obviously out of space and time, and the galaxy and universe, in another dimension, in which we do not understand.
Show evidence for this extra dimension for which we do not understand. Until we can show that it exists, it is perfectly reasonable, logical and sound to assume that the sum total of reality is that which we can show to be in existence, and anything posited to be outside it does not exist. So until you can point to something which shows this extra dimension you assume actually does exist, my lack of belief in god is more grounded in reality than your belief in god.
Quote:4. This is like saying that an explanation requires an explanation, which would lose you in an infinite regress, which is clearly contradictory to the bases and fundamentals of science.
I'm sorry but this doesn't even make sense.
Quote:5. Antony Flew in his book states:
Now, clearly theists and atheist can agree on one thing: if anything at all exists, there must be something preceding it that always existed. How did this eternally existing reality come to be? The answer is that it never came to be. It always existed. Take your pick: God or universe. Something always existed
So in your attempt to show that god doesn't have a creator, you admit that god needs to have a creator to exist. Give me a moment, I need to check something *Shakes Mo's head, hears loud rattle* Yeah, definitely some screws gone loose inside there Mo, I'd suggest you go see a head doctor, stat.
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(December 23, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Mohammed - Muslim and Proud Wrote: As a muslim, I am not allowed to use profanity because Islam teaches me to respect people, regardless of their beliefs and views.
As the fictional character I have based my avatar on would doubtlessly say "To make a sound of hollow laughing". If you think islam teaches respect for all despite their views, you're a bigger head case than I previously thought.
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