(December 23, 2015 at 1:50 pm)Mohammed - Muslim and Proud Wrote: Hello,
Greetings to you brothers and sisters in humanity,
I would like to refute Richard Dawkins argument " If God created man, then who created God? "
The answer to this question is very simple, and I would like to discuss it in detail:
1. The Creator is called The Creator, so how can the Creator have a creator if he is The Creator?
2. The question can be turned around, which will allow me to ask: " If the universe created man, then who created the universe? "
3. Only do things in our galaxy and universe and space-time, require a creator. God is obviously out of space and time, and the galaxy and universe, in another dimension, in which we do not understand.
4. This is like saying that an explanation requires an explanation, which would lose you in an infinite regress, which is clearly contradictory to the bases and fundamentals of science.
5. Antony Flew in his book states:
Now, clearly theists and atheist can agree on one thing: if anything at all exists, there must be something preceding it that always existed. How did this eternally existing reality come to be? The answer is that it never came to be. It always existed. Take your pick: God or universe. Something always existed
1. YOU named this invisible guy "The Creator". Just because you named him as the almighty creator doesn't mean I don't get to ask where the hell he came from.
2. I don't know where the universe really came from or how it was created. That's the difference between you and I. I would actually like to know, and I would be open to proof. I'm not blindly claiming some nonsense based on ancient mythical belief in magic.
3. That's called moving the goal posts. You don't get to create special rules for your god and offer that as a solution. Claims like this are why atheists make fun of you and don't take your arguments seriously. Cut that shit out.
4. Nothing you said in this point makes any taking sense to me. Maybe you'll need to clarify your point for me to discuss, because it just sounds like nonsense you made up on the spot.
5. There isn't a need for something to have always existed. Sure, it's possible. But not required. If you were scientifically literate at all you'd know facilities like the LHC are actively searching for particles that are responsible for creating matter. Read up on: Higgs Boson