RE: Eyewitness Testimony of the Death and Resurrection of Jesus
January 23, 2011 at 3:28 am
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2011 at 3:30 am by noselfwilling.)
(January 23, 2011 at 3:08 am)Skipper Wrote: Is coming back from the dead biologically possible? and didn't Jesus fly (ascend whatever) up to heaven? Why can your super heroes be exempt from psychical laws and not mine? Islam has books and authors and it's old and stuff too...Islam has many millions of followers who could quote their book and make bits of it bold too...is that proof for Islam being correct?Compare your the flying horse that only you follow to Jesus resurrected and ascended and 1 in 3 people on the planet testify to based on the eyewitnesses in various group settings. Yours seems self oriented since it is all about you and your hallucination that only you have. Your horse could not pay for the sins of the world nor resurrect, and can't even speak Aramaic like Jesus did so Jesus trumps your idol which is inaccessible anyway.
A loving God would be personal and accessible and reveal himself in groups, so nobody could have the excuse that He didn't reveal himself in groups. Since God exists, He is not going to atone for our sins by a creature that doesn't have God-consciousness or self-consciousness and can't relate to us as we are. Where did your horse even say it was God? And God is not going to depend on one person in the 21st century who claimed he saw a horse fly as the greatest revelation to mankind. What love is that?
Since yours doesn't claim to be God it must be part of nature (making stuff up or hallucinated); but God is outside of nature so His resurrection and ascension and appearances would be supernatural.
You know the Koran is wrong because six centuries later it has no evidence to counter all the evidence in the first century for the death of Jesus on the cross.
Easy.
(January 23, 2011 at 3:21 am)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: Indeed. With so much evidence for Jesus being a literary figure, he must be one as well. Like the various star trek crews from all those pocketbook novels.I am not aware of anywhere Jesus is a literary figure; even so, historians concern themselves with just the primary sources, so that would be the sources within 150 years of His death.
Remember, Jesus has more sources for him than any ten figures in antiquity combined so you can't use the excuse there is not enough data.
