RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 29, 2015 at 10:23 pm
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2015 at 11:57 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(December 28, 2015 at 4:05 am)Evie Wrote:(December 28, 2015 at 2:28 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Why care what anyone says then? Better yet, why are you even part of the discussion?
I just wanted to point out the logical fallacy you committed. You responded by telling me something Paul says. Either way you still committed a fallacy. That's all. Laterz
I've committed no "fallacy", a word you atheists seem to pull out whenever you have no argument.
The "Jews" that you guys are used to seeing are ASHKENAZI Jews, and are NOT descended from the Jews of the Bible.
Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European
Quote:The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe.
Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
Quote:It is estimated that in the 11th century Ashkenazi Jews composed only three percent of the world's Jewish population, while at their peak in 1931 they accounted for 92 percent of the world's Jews. Immediately prior to the Holocaust, the number of Jews in the world stood at approximately 16.7 million.
Again, the word "Jew" originally referenced the people of the tribe of Judah, it had nothing to do with religion.
(December 28, 2015 at 2:37 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: When are you going to answer the question about why you believe in an ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tale if you aren't a Jew?
Quote:Romans 4
13 It was not through the law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith.
14 For if those who depend on the law are heirs, faith means nothing and the promise is worthless,
15 because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.
16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all.
17 As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.”[c] He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being things that were not.
Quote:Galatians 3:7
Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.