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My Rebuttal to Dawkins Argument
RE: My Rebuttal to Dawkins Argument
(December 23, 2015 at 1:50 pm)Mohammed - Muslim and Proud Wrote: Now, clearly theists and atheist can agree on one thing: if anything at all exists, there must be something preceding it that always existed. How did this eternally existing reality come to be? The answer is that it never came to be. It always existed. Take your pick: God or universe. Something always existed

I agree with your original point.  Saying "Who created God?" is silly, because by definition God doesn't have a creator. How can that be?  Who knows!  And the idea is protected from challenges because the understanding of how the universe was operating at the start hasn't been figured out yet, that I know of.

That being said, saying God or Universe always existed is making the same mistake Dawkins made.  It's taking a time? where things are happening differently than we understand, and then applying our understanding to it anyways.  

The meaningful question, is why believe a God created the universe?  I'm unfamiliar with your religion's take on when creation took place, but science says it's a few billion years ago.  The story you're presenting is that God created a giant universe, and then a few billion years later, on one planet, to one species, after they were already on the planet for a few thousand years, God gave a book to them with the answers to stuff.  That seems unlikely.  

To me, it just doesn't seem plausible enough to justify claiming, or really even seriously consider "God" as the answer to the origin of the universe question.
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RE: My Rebuttal to Dawkins Argument - by Minimalist - December 23, 2015 at 1:53 pm
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