(January 1, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:(January 1, 2016 at 10:24 pm)Cephus Wrote: But, and I'm just generalizing here so don't take it personally, but a lot of people seem to think that all they have to do is believe and pray and sit around waiting for something to happen and when it never does, they just make excuses for not believing enough, or God having a plan or some other such nonsense. We come right back to hope being generally useless without action and action does all the work. What's the point of hope if you actually have to make things happen?
So yeah, I don't hope things get better, I get up off my butt and make things better and encourage others to do the same. I really see no point for God in the mix because God doesn't demonstrably exist, nor does God ever seem to do anything worthwhile.
Your worldview is very different than mine, Cephus. Even when I identified as an atheist, I hoped in humanity, in plans taking shape, in people coming through, etc. But, this didn't mean I was inert. What a different life it would be like, to go through it without feeling the need to hope. Interesting.
Yeah, if we actually had rational people who made intellectual decisions without regards to mindless emotionalism, we might actually get somewhere on this planet. Imagine that.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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