(January 2, 2016 at 9:59 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(January 2, 2016 at 9:31 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: I feel like I'd understand you better if I understood the bolded sentence. If I understand you correctly, you may be right. A 'proof' as you use the word may turn on the audience being in a closed system (like math and logic) of a uni-culture with a common tradition regarding the 'sacred'. Perhaps it is because that is condition is fading away that the appeal of such attempts to persuade too is also fading.
The heart needs to be sincere to God and in search of tranquility in a path of devotion to the treasured Being.
Love of God to lovers of God helps them reach out and connect to the source, realize their connection, and increase in seeing power of her light and majesty.
Anyone who remembers God and is not in awe of by her majesty, essentially lacks faith in Her.
All arguments for God will make use of spiritual truths, in which, it's up to the heart to perceive.
Now you're just saying the only way to be persuaded by proofs of god is to already adore god .. which means you are already persuaded. This is hopelessly circular. Worse, who are you to say what other people's relationship to god "must" have been? I was never a toady for god and neither did I conceive of god as desiring such a stance. You are in no position to pass judgment in such broad sweeping ways.