(January 9, 2016 at 3:29 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(January 6, 2016 at 1:21 pm)robvalue Wrote: This is a question for anyone who thinks morality "comes from God".Yes, I would still be moral.
If you knew there was no afterlife, that you're dead and gone no matter what happens in this life, would you continue to follow "morality from God"? Or would you then ignore it, and decide for yourself how to act?
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Jefferson while a Deist and cherry picked the bible claiming Jesus was no magic man, but sold good morals, while certainly a watered down and more civil version, as much as he was pillar of modern free speech, and valued being unafraid to question anything, still would argue with him if he were alive today.
Jefferson certainly thought atheists could be moral, "whence arises the morality of the atheist? It is idle to say, as some do, that no such thing exists."
The same way I love my liberal theist friends but still want to scream "Dude you don't need an invisible friend, your empathy is already there".
Even with my sacred deities Neil Degrasse Tyson and Bjorn Ulvaeus from ABBA, both are of the "off" position on god claims but shy away from the word "atheist", which is what they currently are, the "agnostic" part only refers to the future.
If you walk into a room and the light is currently off, that does not mean it cannot be turned on in the future. But if it is currently off, that means you are currently an atheist.
Meh, but if we are going to have religious people, certainly someone like King and Malala are better than ISIS or Pat Rubbernuts.