(January 31, 2016 at 5:21 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: You asked for the definition of "right" and "wrong". I find it difficult to believe that you do not know what these words mean.
I always get a little leery when people refuse to define the terms they're using on the basis that those definitions are "just obvious," because what it indicates to me is that they themselves don't have a firmly worded definition beyond their intuitions. When you say that you find it difficult to fathom that Rob doesn't already know what the terms mean, I feel I need to remind you that their usage is not actually a given, and that people do use them in different ways. Have you seriously never met a christian who defines right and wrong around how given actions deviate from their specific religious interpretation? Can you just not see the difference between that usage of the term and a more secular one, based around wellbeing?
This is where the subjectivity comes in, and it's where proponents of objective morality completely fail, because everyone interprets data through the lens of their own values before they come to moral conclusions. Even the supposedly iron-clad dictates of a god go through your own personal moral filter, which leads you to then determine whether those dictates are worthy of your adherence or not. It's useless to denigrate those who can at least admit to the subjectivity of the values they use to come to moral conclusions, since it's not as though anyone has anything better.
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