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The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(February 3, 2016 at 4:04 pm)Rekeisha Wrote:
(January 29, 2016 at 2:52 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: I just gave you a whole list. The rape thing is in Numbers. Gaud tells the Israelites to kill everyone but the virgin girls, whom they may keep as war spoils. That is rape. The rest of the list is mostly about killings that are either performed or commanded by Gaud. What more do you need?

None of those say that God received any pleasure in doing that. It does say in Eze 18:23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

That list of scripture is a display of God's judgement. He has the ability, the right and obligation to do so. His goal is to make a people for himself and when people reject Him then they will receive his wrath because they are choosing evil. God will remove evil from the world either through giving them a new nature which is made available to all believer brought his death and resurrection when they repent of their sins and are sealed by the Holy Spirit. Or He will send them to Hell where they will be kept with all other beings that are evil for the rest of eternity. God's desire as it says in  2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you,not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. Yet He will allow people to refuse Him, hold onto their sin, blindness and death. 

Ps 103 The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love.9 He will not always chide, nor will he keep his anger forever. As a people with imperfect views of everything it is easy to misunderstand the gravity and evil of sin. What is amazing is that God has not removed all of humankind. That would be just but since He is a merciful and loving God He bears with us and seeks our good. He sacrificed and humbled himself in order that we might have an opportunity through repentance to be given His righteousness. He willingly took on the sin of humanity in order to pay for our sin. The God you are trying to construct in your imagination does not exist. The God of the Bible does exist and you will give an account to Him one day. That is why He sincerely wishes to cover your sin with His perfect sacrifice so that you will not have to take upon yourself the fullness of His wrath. 


So what you're telling me is that rape and genocide are morally acceptable, so long as Gaud either commands it or does it himself. What horrendously dangerous logic.



In that case, Gaud's morality is completely arbitrary and subjective to his whim, and an objective moral standard STILL does not exist in the Universe, even by your own theology. Furthermore, it means that your Gaud is still a vindictive, judgmental monster who doles out punishments like rape, genocide, and eternal torture for even marginal offenses. If Gaud were a person running for office, would you vote for him? I sure wouldn't. If he were a super hero, would you want his help? I sure wouldn't.


Also, if Gaud has to do things he does not take pleasure in, then he is not all-powerful.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work - by Redbeard The Pink - February 3, 2016 at 4:23 pm

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