Still struggling.

[scoobysnack]

Being a teenager you are likely going through the rebellious phase everyone goes through. God is going to do things to make you see the little things, and the dark forces of this world will do everything they can to get you to abandon God. There goal isn't to get you to believe in them, but only to abandon God, because once that happens, they have you. This is spiritual warfare. Remember your human body which you identify with now is just something your true self, your soul resides in for this experience on earth. The body will die, but you, which is a soul, lives forever. 

I'm sure your parents are praying for you as well. I remember reading a story of someone that died and was looking back at the earth, and saw beams of light like lasers coming out of the earth. He asked what that was, and was told by the guide that they are prayers. You are at a crossroads in your life, and you can either trust in what's on this earth through your five senses, or you can trust in your eternal life. Either choice you make, you will see the outcome when your body dies, and then reality is revealed.

And the bullshit parade continues.

Note the reliance on argument by assertion steeped in emotive language (you have a soul, it lives forever, spiritual warfare, dark forces).  There's no actual argument here.  And certainly nothing that has any kind of evidence attached to it.  It's the stereotypical vague threats that theists always employ when they see that someone is about to leave their cult and think for themselves.  "You're going to be lost forever!  And tortured!  And...uh...other bad stuff!"

For scooby's shit to even be remotely effective, they'll need to:

1. Prove we have a soul (without merely regurgitating the bible)
2. Prove that the soul is eternal (ditto)
3. Prove there's an afterlife (ditto)
4. Prove there are dark forces at work (ditto)
5. Prove that those dark forces are engaged in spiritual warfare (ditto)
6. Prove that NDE's aren't anything more than hallucinations caused by trauma, drug use, and/or other chemical imbalances and that the people telling the stories aren't liars

And I'm sure I'm missing a few.

This is theist scrambling 101.  It always follows the same pattern because it's designed to hammer at fear and guilt (by bringing your parents' feelings into it) fueled by doubt, which is irrational by definition.  The goal isn't to provide an argument for god, but to amplify your own fear and doubt and guilt to the point where leaving religion is too frightening to consider.  It is also, in my mind, a form of abuse, and it'd be really fucking nice if vultures like scooby would cut the shit out.

Well that's a lot to prove in one post haha. Most of what i'm talking about doesn't fit into the world view of the materialist, in that we are just biological beings with consciousness who can interact with our environments, and this is all that there is, the alpha and the omega, (beginning and the end). Our brains try to make sense out of a world through our five senses which are very limited, yet we come to conclusions based on what we perceive, knowing we can't see, hear, or feel the whole spectrum. One of my favorite shows is brain games showing how our brains work, and how our perceptions are flawed.

Most of the information is hidden, which is why it's not universally understood when it comes to the spirit world. The spirit world is all around us, it's who we are, and where we will enter back into. It can be understood as vibration because everything is vibration, and along with energy, it can't be destroyed.

What I'm talking about is our higher selves. That is only really revealed after we leave ourselves. The only way you can learn about it is tuning into it on that vibration level which is compatible. The best evidence I've found is from reading hundreds of accounts of NDEs, OBEs, researching the occult and their beliefs, the paranormal etc. The soul can't be measured empirically. That will only be found out after you leave your body. And I know you think everyone of the atheists who talk about seeing the afterlife and changing their belief is a liar, but that's such a foolish conclusion to come to. However I really do know how crazy this all sounds, trust me I do, but it's too important not to talk about for fear that people will think I'm crazy. Your life is on the line.

I'm trying to talk about who we truly are, which I don't fully understand, not what we perceive ourselves to be based on our body. It's a lot easier to just believe we are nothing, we can create our own morals without karma consequences, and that the end of the body is the end, so we might as well indulge in all the pleasures of life while we can.

Something interesting is the placebo effect, and why in studies it works to cure disease in some but not others. How can it work at all for that matter, which is still something not fully understood, but science still gives it it's best explanation it can. Science is not the authority since as we all know new studies are done, and new conclusions are drawn as the understanding evolves.

Some even think that the belief in God is a placebo effect, or sometimes a crutch.