Still struggling.

[scoobysnack]

What is your idea of a credible source, and why is your idea of a credible source credible in your mind?

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I guess I could explain it this way. I've researched luciferianism and understand to an extent what they believe, but that doesn't mean I accept what they believe to be truth. I know they exist and believe in Lucifer, as I do, but I don't believe Lucifer is god like they do. I understand Lucifer to be the adversary of God which is the etymology of Satan. Too an extent the fact that they exist, proves God exists since that's an extension of the resistance to the universal. And what I mean by that is why would there be a group of very powerful people in many levels of our government fighting against God by taking the side of lucifer if God didn't exist? For me the dark side is interesting because it proves the existence of the opposition. And if there is opposition, what are they opposed to?

Seriously scooby, just leave the thread. You are not helping your image by posting stuff that no one cares about/believes in.

No, I think I'll stay. Still listening to an interesting video posted by Jehanne. What I'm interested is what you believe in.

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What I said were not my beliefs were about satanism and the occult, not souls. All those at the higher levels know we are souls.

Watch and/or listen to this:

http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates...-not-final

Thanks Jehanne, this is the most interesting things I've found on this forum. I'm half way through it now, and will have to finish it tomorrow, but I wanted to thank you for providing the link. It's a great debate from both sides and the only thing I've come across on this forum to make me question anything yet, so kudos to you! For anyone else, I'd recommend this video.

What I still find interesting is why everyone wouldn't everyone report some experience if some do and it's just DMT. All speakers do a good job of explaining their point of view. Kind of like the how the placebo effect only effects a certain percentage, like NDEs only affect a certain percentage. Why if we are all basically biologically the same would it happen to one, but not the other? The last speaker in the first section from Harvard makes some good points.

I'll finish it tomorrow.