(February 22, 2016 at 5:01 pm)Godschild Wrote:(February 20, 2016 at 5:15 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: You god is one which your basic church doctrine purports to be both omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, as well as being perfect (whatever that means, but "flawless" is clearly implied). Therefore, such a god must be held himself to the standards of responsibility which go with the above conditions. What sort of a perfect creator permits his creation to go off and make stupid decisions which it could have prevented? No perfect god can exist under the three O's and allow that! Therefore, either your "Free Will" argument is a nicely dressed-up turd, or it's your god who smells of shit.
Church doctrine has nothing to do with who God is, so your entire argument means nothing to Christians.
God created a perfect world and man brought sin into it, so man is responsible for his own mess, God told Adam this before he sinned, death will be the way for man. Free will misused by man has caused his suffering, another warning by God to mankind. You must be one of those who wants to blame everyone but yourself of your shortcomings, sad I think.
GC
Actually man didn't bring sin into it. Lucifer was the first creation that God found unrighteousness in, and he was walking around on the earth with God's permission before Adam sinned. Yeah, it's true that Adam had dominion over the earth, so God's contract was with him, but God tossed Lucifer out of heaven and let him have free reign in the Garden of Eden.
Even if God could somehow escape the charge of malintent, he would still have a charge of incompetence against him. Being all-knowing, he should have foreknown the result of allowing Satan the run of his perfect creation. Of course, God doesn't accept any responsibility for it. He feels pretty bad for drowning the whole lot of them later on though.
