(February 25, 2016 at 11:59 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: But if you are going to refuse Him and lie to yourself about His nature you will receive the full weight of it. He is a just and Holy God and He doesn't waiver. I am going to be honest with you, I wouldn't wish this on anyone. I unfortunately do not have the ability to fully make this clear to you how unimaginable His wrath will be.
You can roll your eyes, you can call me crazy, you can say I belong to a cult but the truth is one day you must face Him and the question is: will you have to pay for your transgressions against Him by drinking the cup of judgment, or will you rest in His arms because He granted you true life through your faith and obedience?
This is TRUTH: God will crush out your evil [...] with the cup of His wrath
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Wooooooooooo, your imaginary friend is terrifying!! I suppose I should cower before your "loving" god, right? So why don't you tell me again how loving this invisible friend of yours is, when I refuse to submit and obey?
But remember, folks, it's a free gift! FREE, they tell you.
Except you have to obey. God wants to love you. He wants to give you everything. He doesn't want to have to hurt you, but he will if you don't submit to his will.
Do you seriously not understand that you're worshiping someone whose actions make him the moral equivalent of a mugger or a rapist? Do you seriously not understand that this kind of threat, invented by Israelite priests, is morally indistinguishable from what a Mafia thug says to the people they're trying to squeeze for money?
"It used to be pretty bad around here. We've been running this neighborhood for years, and you made the choice to start up a business here on this street. It's our territory. We figure you owe us for keeping it as peaceful as it has been. For a small fee, we can make sure nothing bad happens to you and your nice little business, here." - A Mafia Shakedown
"I been in love with you ever since you chose to walk in here wearing that little black dress. So I brought you to me to tell you how much I love you. Just give me what I want and you can go free; otherwise, I'm going to have to hurt you... but if you let me love you like I want to love you, and love me back, then I'll give you everything you ever wanted. I'm sorry, but you made the choice to make me fall in love with you, and now there are obligations." - A Rapist
"Even though I created you exactly as you are, and I make every rule in this universe, I have decided that how you speak, with whom you have sexual relations, and most of the things related to every other moral code on the planet are called 'sins', and they mean that I have to hurt you unless you worship me. But if you do, you'll go to paradise. Otherwise, it's pain... torture in flames, forever. You will receive the full weight of it. Let me just fully make this clear to you how unimaginable my wrath will be." - Your God
Can you seriously not grasp this? Are you so indoctrinated that you don't understand that not one Bible verse you cited was one I had not already read and understood? I know what your claims are; what you don't seem to be willing to see is that they're deeply and truly fucked up, from any perspective other than having been indoctrinated from childhood to accept these things as real (even if you're not a Christian, in our culture we're bombarded with messages about this religion, to the point it becomes as though they are real), and no sane person would be willing to worship that monster of a God.
If any being, god or alien or human, were to exhibit the traits described in the Bible (both the loving and the vicious), and was to actually come here and try to bribe me with the carrot-and-stick of paradise or vengeance (heaven and hell) in that way, I would defy it. I would wage war upon it, were it within my power to do so. And if you had not been brainwashed by your overgrown cult, you would defy it, too.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.