The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work

[Redbeard The Pink]

You keep talking about all this proof against God yet you haven't produced any.

We've been over it pretty thoroughly, actually. I might have even put links in occasionally, though I'm notoriously bad about not doing that. The book your god is based on is scientifically inaccurate and logically inconsistent, your god as a character is logically and ideologically inconsistent with itself and with reality, and the various sects of your religion are inconsistent with each other. Every scrap of evidence points to your god being an imaginary thing that people fight over and use to control each other.

You say science will prove the fact that life will come from non-life but it hasn't.

Actually, yes it has. We know there was a time before life on Earth, and we know that life now exists on Earth, which means somewhere along the line inorganic substances must have somehow coalesced into living things. What we don't fully understand yet is how, but within the next 100 or so years (maybe sooner) we probably will.


Furthermore, your own beliefs are that your god spoke life into being from non-life, so I don't see why that's even an issue.

 You claim I believe in a myth but when it comes down to taking your world view to its ends if fails and you just keep saying "just cause".

My recognition of the fact that there is no discernible reason or design behind reality is not a failing of my world view. Your insistence that there must always be a cogent answer to your incessant "why" is a failing of yours.

You assume things just fall into order without a reason why and say science will prove that some day.

And again, like a blithering moron, you fail to properly represent what I said. I explained, as simply as I could, why "order" as we know it exists, and it wasn't because "no reason."

So it seem that you are banking your life on blind faith.

No, that would be what you're doing.

You spoke of Occam's Razor but to me that the simpler answer would be that God created everything and set everything in motion.

That would be because your mind is simple, and because you don't understand the kind of simplicity Occam's Razor is talking about. Your hypothesis is virtually untestable, making it one of the first things to fall to the Razor in favor of other explanations that would be easier to prove or disprove.

As apposed to a lot of time with material that always existed that some how came together perfectly to create the universe we know.

Perfect in what sense? The vast majority of it is completely uninhabitable.

Also why is it easier to believe that materials existed forever as apposed to a being?

Because there is evidence to suggest that matter/energy can neither be created nor destroyed, yet there is no evidence to suggest that supernatural realms or beings exist at all.

So what I understand you saying is that the "universe behaves consistently" meaning matter interacts with matter in a observable and measurable way consistently. What I also see you saying, which seems a bit contradictory to me, is that "reality" does not have to behave consistently. So would you please provide me with a clear definition of reality.

"Reality behaves consistently" and "reality must be consistent" are not the same thing. "Reality behaves consistently" is a whole lot closer to what I actually said.


Look, I'm not gonna sit here and dick around with you about semantics. Yes, the physics pretty much always works the same way, and yes, humans behave differently over time. That's two different kinds of consistency, and you're conflating them because you're trying to be sneaky and/or you're just an idiot.