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Poll: Gay Marriage - are you for or against it and why?
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Gay Marriage - are you for or against it and why?
RE: Gay Marriage - are you for or against it and why?
(March 7, 2011 at 8:51 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:


You think you're hot stuff don't you?

I am not impressed by your constant degradation of Dotard. None of us disagree that his response was lacking... so get over his lacking response.

1. That's right, Neo Nazis do not deserve respect for anti-semitism, homophobes do not deserve respect for their hateful views on homosexuals, the extremely religious do not deserve respect for their hateful views of Atheists and other religious groups, nor do anti-feminists deserve respect for hating the right to pay parity and equal rights as males, also why should we not stand up against racism towards African Americans, and other races.

Also your view of respect is tainted, according to you hate speech is okay, and we should sit back and do nothing, rather that ridicule or voice disapproval. So by all means legitimize discrimination on basis of free speech, but remember free speech comes with a price, people can condemn such discrimination equally as those who can voice it. This is not like a differing view on a political party or economic policy, discrimination on basis on individual status is the undermining of individual rights, you think that deserves respect, then you are not an individualist by all accounts. I never said I deserve respect, you however are making the claim people do, you don't have to respect people to not discriminate.

2. I don't, except when it undermines my individual rights and the individual rights of others, if you bar people from marriage, bar people from the rights of marriage, refuse to hire people because they are homosexual and actively discriminate in politics so they can have no say in government. That is when I 'give a stuff'.

3. Fail. If that electrician works for a company (or is self employed), anyone can sue that electrician for discrimination, and most companies these days have standards, some by law, others by personal choice, at least in New Zealand such discrimination violates the human rights act. Come here mate, get sued. Though I doubt you would get away with much like that in America either. Thinking

4. So here we go, first you claim everyone is unequal by intelligence and ability as justification for racism, second you claim that we should have religious discrimination because some views on religion are better than others, by that logic Christians and Muslims should have a right to diver out religious punishment to any atheist they find (no matter how severe) especially if you would actively discriminate and not hire someone on the basis they are religious.

5. Trying to make it absurd there but not working, discrimination by place in society is not as the same as discrimination on basis of what you prefer, discriminating by rose color is not an issue, discriminating on the basis that someone has no right to work, or live as other people is. This logic escapes you though, too bad, glad I don't live near you. It must be a place of hate alright.

6. Trying to spin me won't work, I said not all right wingers are religious extremists.

7. Democracy is one way to attempt equality, not the only way, you can't hold the flaws of democracy as an excuse against the notion of all other forms of equality. Last I checked sexual orientation had nothing to do with democracy, unless of course democracy legislated against or for it.

8. Wrong, socialism did not exist during the early hunter-gather days, but altruism, socialism is a system designed by man due to inspiration from altruism. Dawkins even could tell you that, but I guess you don't pay much attention to what he writes or I wouldn't have to say it.

9. I am simply stating his views are similar to similar haters like Glen Beck, and others on the religious right (and religious left), plus your argument is that I have no right to criticize discrimination or respond to it. Merely because I don't respect a viewpoint doesn't mean I can't respond or shouldn't respond to it,

10. Her words not mine, it merely expresses the reverse of what was said. I agree with what she said though, if you are going to treat homosexuals as inferior, dirty and undeserving of equal rights, expect to have your hate thrown back at you.

Finally...I have no time for you either. There are left wing Atheist forums that attack libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism in the same fashion you have here, it appears this forum does the same thing but with the issue of civil rights. Keep hating homosexuals, it makes you a hypocrite on an epic scale.

Safe to say I am not coming back, and you can delete my account as far as I am concerned. It would be better talking with someone who hates me in a fanatical sense , than one that pretends to not to and make the same response, it is clear tolerance does not exist here when it comes to homosexuality.

PS: I wouldn't sue, reporting the site to homosexual, womens rights, and anti-racism organizations as a result of what is written here would be enough. I doubt I would waste my time however, as there are likely some people here in the forum that don't deserve the harassment. I would advise the admins to ban talk on such topics as gay marriage in the future, or you can be sure that if anyone of that variety comes here and gets offended you will be screwed/or sued then.
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RE: Gay Marriage - are you for or against it and why? - by BlackUnicorn - March 7, 2011 at 10:51 pm

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