(March 1, 2016 at 5:02 am)robvalue Wrote:
Where I think you are confused, is that I agree, that judgements are subjective. So are your beliefs and thoughts. They are dependent on your experience, knowledge, worldview and other things pertaining to you the subject. It may be a judgement call, on whether that color is blue or purple. It doesn’t mean that what I have thoughts on is subjective (everything would be subjective if that is the case.) The color in question, doesn’t change; based on by beliefs or judgement. Similarly, just because there may be a question, or differences in opinion about something, it does not mean that it is subjective. I cannot make what is objective; to be subjective, simply by disagreeing. If that is the case then it was never objective to begin with, as it was dependent on my agreement. You are confusing knowledge of, with the nature of.
And I do believe that most everyone that I have encountered, does behave as if morality is objective. They do behave as if right and wrong, justice, good and evil are real things to be compared and evaluated. They don’t behave as if what is clearly immoral, is just another valid choice. Without objective morality you have none of these things. They feel that they can critique the morality of others, and accuse others of doing wrong. They place blame and accept praise as if there is a moral standard which exists. Without an objective morality you cannot claim that anything is unfair or unjust. You also can not become more or less moral. You can change your moral ethics, but this is just different not more moral or immoral; because there is no basis outside of yourself. Especially when wrong is done against them, I find that most will demand justice. And when they are doing wrong, they will try to justify it.
Frankly; I find it difficult to have a meaningful conversation with someone about morality; who thinks that there is nothing really wrong with abusing his wife.
