RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
March 9, 2016 at 4:47 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2016 at 6:28 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(March 9, 2016 at 3:37 am)Aractus Wrote:(March 8, 2016 at 10:21 am)abaris Wrote: Question thrown right back at you. What history did you learn? Hitler without the conservative support to get him appointed by Hindenburg would have never been able to form a stable government. Virtually every other party was opposed to him.
You said Hitler wasn't elected, he was - end of story.
No, he wasn't.
I definitely want a citation for this now. Put up or shut up.
(March 9, 2016 at 3:37 am)Aractus Wrote: If your claim is that the NAZIs were not elected that's a different claim, but again I'd point out to you that they were the largest party and had achieved a higher party vote than any other party in all elections up until 1933, therefore they were elected to govern. The people expected them to form governance once elected.
I'd suggest you learn English as well as history, because I never wrote that NaZis weren't elected.
(March 9, 2016 at 3:37 am)Aractus Wrote:(March 8, 2016 at 12:00 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You'll need to link to a citation for this ridiculous claim of yours. Hitler never was in any parliament. The only office Hitler ever held was Chancellor -- an executive and not legislative position -- gained by appointment from Hindenburg.
That's a gross simplification. People didn't vote for individual candidates, they voted for parties. Hitler got in by taking one of the seats that the NAZI party won in the 1933 election.
No, he didn't. Hitler got in through machinations involving the above-mentioned von Papen. Hitler never ran for a Parliament seat, never sat in Parliament, never cast a Parliament vote.
Hitler was appointed by Hindenberg on 30 Jan 1933 as a result of a scheme by Schliecher which went awry. This twaddle about Hitler holding a Parliament seat is the product of an uneducated person who has supped at the pigtrough of common discourse and hasn't bothered to check facts for himself. Hitler was never a legislator.
Pity you.
(March 9, 2016 at 3:37 am)Aractus Wrote: He was elected into office. And as far as I know he held a parliamentary seat since 1925 - he was known as the leader of the NAZI party are you saying the leader didn't have a seat in parliament until 1933? Where's your evidence?
lol, my evidence is history. He was banned from politics at all in 1925 as a result of the Beer Hall Putsch until 1927.
At this point you really need to quote and link reputable sources.
And I'm saying that Hitler never, I repeat never, sat in the Reichstag. "As far as I know" -- you clearly don't know shit from shinola on this topic.
(March 9, 2016 at 3:37 am)Aractus Wrote: So what that he was appointed Chancellor?
Well, there's that little point where you said he had been elected, in contravention to all the facts we have at hand.
(March 9, 2016 at 3:37 am)Aractus Wrote: That's how a parliamentarian in Australia becomes Prime Minister, it's hardly unusual, the fact is he was elected, he held a seat, he led the party, his party formed governance and as part of forming governance he was appointed Chancellor.
Well, you do realize we're not talking about Australia, right, Bumpkin? We're talking about ... wait for it ... an entirely different country. Wait, you mean other countries don't do things like Australians? Are you kidding me?! What a fucking idiot. Let me repeat that: what a fucking idiot.
I'll wait for you to actually research the topic, learn a little about it, and link to your sources for the incorrect claims. He was not elected to any office, he held no seat in the Reichstag, and his accession to the Chancellorship was not a result of any parliamentary action but as a result of a Presidential appointment. Indeed, Article 53 of the Weimar Constitution stipulates that the Chancellorship, which was Hitler's title from Jan 33 to Aug 34, must be appointed by the President -- i.e., Hindenburg.
Forgive my laughter as I hand you a shovel, but really, the hole you're digging is comical. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Go fetch your citations, now. I'll wait for your acknowledgement of error.