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I was on the atheist experience :)

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I was on the atheist experience :)
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RE: I was on the atheist experience :)
March 29, 2016 at 1:30 am
(March 28, 2016 at 5:43 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Translation:

There's not a single thing Jesus said which I actually live by.

Can you explain that? I don't believe I said that at all. Your reasoning that you used on the AE is a straw man to everyone like myself that has never ascribed to Pascal wager. And I definitely don't believe that you've proven that it was a requirement for all disciples of Jesus. You said, "well it couldn't hurt" that could be true, but it doesn't prove your point as absolute
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AGAIN, I took the trouble of calling the argument "Upping the ante of Pascal's Wager."  So assuming that the wager is a logically sound argument, certain actions are compulsory.  You CANNOT refute my argument by rejecting Pascal's Wager because I am saying that IF you accept the WAGER then my argument follows.  It is irrelevant if you don't believe that giving all your wealth away is required or not because it is 100% TRUE that if you do this then your chances of getting into heaven CANNOT DECREASE but MIGHT INCREASE.

Get it?
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I think you're viewing your argument a little too highly. How come I can't refute your argument by rejecting a premise? I have always rejected Pascals Wager. I don't believe that something is true because if you believe it to be true it'll be awesome if it is really true. Its not logically sound. Do you believe it is? So maybe, if a christian mentioned to you that Pascals Wager is a good reason to believe in god, then you could pass on your upping the ante and its a perfectly fine refutation to their specific argument.

So please explain why anyone who claims to be Christian must adhere to your upping the ante? If your point is just simply, "well, it'll increase your odds" Well so would not getting married, according to the apostle Paul. But he didn't make any rules about staying single. If that is your only point, then we're all just at square one. Does your point prove or disprove anything substantial?
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I was on the atheist experience :)

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I was on the atheist experience :) - by Nihilist Virus - March 16, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - March 16, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Brian37 - March 16, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Cephus - March 17, 2016 at 11:34 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - March 18, 2016 at 8:17 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by rexbeccarox - March 18, 2016 at 9:04 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by c172 - March 28, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - March 22, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - March 23, 2016 at 6:52 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - March 27, 2016 at 6:32 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - March 28, 2016 at 5:14 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - March 29, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Cephus - April 1, 2016 at 1:38 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Cephus - April 1, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 1, 2016 at 11:24 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 2, 2016 at 10:38 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 3, 2016 at 1:03 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 3, 2016 at 3:49 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Cephus - April 3, 2016 at 12:48 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Cephus - April 3, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - April 4, 2016 at 8:07 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 4, 2016 at 9:16 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by ApeNotKillApe - April 4, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 4, 2016 at 11:35 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 4, 2016 at 11:29 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - March 29, 2016 at 1:18 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - March 22, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - March 22, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - March 24, 2016 at 2:13 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - March 24, 2016 at 6:26 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - March 24, 2016 at 6:31 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - March 24, 2016 at 7:11 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - March 24, 2016 at 7:28 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - March 25, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - March 27, 2016 at 8:09 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - April 1, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - April 1, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Silver - April 4, 2016 at 1:46 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - April 4, 2016 at 9:18 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 4, 2016 at 11:32 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 5, 2016 at 12:05 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 5, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 5, 2016 at 6:25 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 6, 2016 at 10:27 pm
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - April 4, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - April 5, 2016 at 2:02 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by Won2blv - April 5, 2016 at 9:56 am
RE: I was on the atheist experience :) - by robvalue - April 5, 2016 at 10:50 am

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