Islam in Europe: perception and reality

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It raises the question -- are these enclaves bent on expansion, or are these ghettoes where undesirables find themselves?

Only judging by my own experiences in my own environment. Run down houses in the Red Light district, where the whores used to offer themselves in the streets in the 80ies and 90ies. By day the noisiest, most frequented and polluted parts of the city, where an elevated train runs through every three or four minutes. Also highrises on the outskirts of the city, quite modern in the 70ies, but now only populated by people who can't afford any better.

It's also an urban myth that they band together. There's a turkish community, the traditional one, moving in during the 60ies and 70ies, and there are all the other ones, who came in later. The Turks are the only ones having some community clubs.