The Problem with Christians

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OK...

Well, this is fun.

What actually is the distinction here, between designed and non-designed?

Designed means... it's magic? It means... things came out of nowhere? It means... some unseen force was directing what was happening?

What? I mean... are we argueing for creationism here? Are you guys suggesting humans were created out of nothing? Or that evolution was given outside assistance, without which it would have failed? After all these pages, I'm no closer to understanding what your position even is.

I dunno man. To clear up my beliefs: evolution appears to be an excellent model for how life develops over time. Study of abiogenesis seems to suggest natural transition is possible between life and non life.

But is there some intelligence behind this all, either now, or at some point in the past? Were all these systems set up to work how they do? Was nature designed? Is this all an artificial reality? I have no idea. I have no beliefs about this.

Do I believe humans were created out of nothing by magic? No. That's ridiculous. If that's too simple, then please explain what you actually do believe.