I was on the atheist experience :)

[Cephus]

I understand what you said.  I'm just pointing out that it isn't a position even worth considering without all of the things I brought up.  "If" it works, sure.  But that requires a lot of testing and evidence that simply doesn't exist and without that, the claim itself is utterly pointless.

The point was that if you believe in Jesus, maybe try to do the shit he said.

But we keep coming back around to the same problem.  Belief in Jesus without actual, objective evidence that the belief is factually real is inherently irrational.  Trying to rationalize an inherently irrational belief is pointless.  Now yes, there are lots of people who have irrational beliefs, but those are not people to be respected, those are people to be pitied.