Islam in Europe: perception and reality

[Mudhammam]

See, that's the issue I take with everything you post here. You transform it into some kind of mirror jerking, while, at the same time, display total unwilligness to walk in the shoes of the ones being on the receiving end. That's why I may repeat. Your argument is something for the garbage bin of reality. People will hate you for killing loved ones. Intent doesn't matter. It only matters for you for the feelgood impression or some intellectual high you get out of it.

But there's nothing intellectual about conflict. Only victism, humans, acting as is expected from humans.

Jesus fucking Christ, abaris, this isn't a debate about the loveliness of war. Nobody is arguing that losing one's limbs or family members in the battlefield is a bed of fucking roses. We are debating whether one can wage war more or less ethically, my position being that we do so in a manner far superior to those whom we target in the Middle East. Maybe you think that war isn't a reality, or that groups like ISIS should not be engaged militarily? But what a laughably naive person--not to say callous to the victims of ISIS--you would have to be to admit that.