RE: Who do you think you are, tiny humans? why I believe
May 4, 2016 at 3:38 am
(This post was last modified: May 4, 2016 at 3:43 am by robvalue.)
It sounds to me that you're a slave to your religion, and the worrying thing is you don't seem to mind. It seems like a problem with low self esteem. Or maybe you have to convince yourself that all the horrible things that happen in the world (and to you) have some sort of purpose, that it's not just pointless suffering.
I'm no one's slave. Sure, someone could come along and physically force me to be their slave, but I'd resist every inch of the way. I'd be planning my escape from the get-go. I'd do only what I had to in order to maximise the chance of freedom. If there was no realistic chance, I'd just refuse to do anything until they killed me or whatever.
But right now, unless I'm hopelessly deluded, I'm not a slave. If I really am a slave but Allah or whatever else is making it feel like I'm not, then that's a weird game he's playing, and for all intents and purposes I'm as free as I can be.
I'm constrained by the way reality works, of course. In that way I'm a slave, in that I cannot leave (except the hard way) and I can't simply ignore rules. But I'm not doing things because someone tells me to. I'm assessing my options, whatever they may be, and making what I think is the best choice. If some lofty judgmental prick up on a throne somewhere disagrees with me, too bad. He can come make his case to me, or he can fuck off. If he wants to punish me later for not acting like a mindless drone, then he's too sick to be reasoned with anyway.
I feel very sad that you consider yourself a slave. You deserve better, and it's especially frustrating because I'm fully aware how imaginary the bonds are all around you. If I have the same bonds as you, they don't hold me. So they can't be as strong as you think.
I'm no one's slave. Sure, someone could come along and physically force me to be their slave, but I'd resist every inch of the way. I'd be planning my escape from the get-go. I'd do only what I had to in order to maximise the chance of freedom. If there was no realistic chance, I'd just refuse to do anything until they killed me or whatever.
But right now, unless I'm hopelessly deluded, I'm not a slave. If I really am a slave but Allah or whatever else is making it feel like I'm not, then that's a weird game he's playing, and for all intents and purposes I'm as free as I can be.
I'm constrained by the way reality works, of course. In that way I'm a slave, in that I cannot leave (except the hard way) and I can't simply ignore rules. But I'm not doing things because someone tells me to. I'm assessing my options, whatever they may be, and making what I think is the best choice. If some lofty judgmental prick up on a throne somewhere disagrees with me, too bad. He can come make his case to me, or he can fuck off. If he wants to punish me later for not acting like a mindless drone, then he's too sick to be reasoned with anyway.
I feel very sad that you consider yourself a slave. You deserve better, and it's especially frustrating because I'm fully aware how imaginary the bonds are all around you. If I have the same bonds as you, they don't hold me. So they can't be as strong as you think.
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