Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.

[Drich]

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Exactly!

God hides from those who see themselves as 'wise' in the Mundane. Look at who he choose to lead the jews out of egypt, look at How Jesus came into the world, Look at Jesus' ministry. The 'mundane' is a tool or a pattern God repeated uses through out the bible to set himself apart from the pictures and ideas that people think 'God' is supposed to be and act like.

Can you imagine how up setting it was to the holiest of holy Jews to expect or almost demand that the messiah be born as past kings were born and follow and honor their traditional views, but instead their messiah came in the way of  they would dismiss as a common man save for the fact that He could do thing they could not explain.

So now fast forward 2000 years and lets say we can explain some of Jesus was able to do. does that change anything?  does it change the fact that on demand he can use the natural process that have been put into place since the beginning to effect his will or the will of the Father?

That is how God Hides Himself from the 'wise' and reveals Himself to the Humble. The Humble are willing to forgo their understanding of God and take Him as He is. while the 'wise' of this world expect God to be certain things.

You for example demand God be supernatural and always mystical. What if God doesn't want to be unknowable? Who then should win out? Your picture of a always unknowable supernatural being? Or what the Alpha and Omega wants for himself?

So then if He presents as something you do not expect then is He not hidden to you? Just like He said He would do?

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I don't feel I was "demanding that God be supernatural and always mystical" in the past, as I never asked for anything other some slight indication or sign from God that could not be mistaken for anything else; As you and others claim to have been privileged to receive. I was able to continue believing to for many years, despite not being provided with such. At some point, it just became increasingly difficult to maintain belief in something unseen and so extraordinary, without receiving the slightest indication that anything extraordinary is even possible. Ever. 

Weren't you going on a few pages back about how you don't 'get' people with an endless supply of faith?

Neither do I.

Your right. but a few pages back I also told you I had to drop or completely let go my idea of God. The winds and rain had to take away the 'house' my belief built. (God had to knock down or make me release my understanding/view of Him) This was my atheism this was the time I lost all hope in my version of God, but yet was still open to the truth even if it meant I had to accept God.

You all assume because your first 'born into version' of Christianity did not yield a prophet level interaction with God, that their can't be a God. You people are quick to point out that their are over 30,000 different version of Christianity all the time. So the question then becomes what makes you think you were born into the one or two that has the strongest connection with God?

You prayed for 'proof'. Now assume your version of God was way, way off. (think of all the horrible things I've said God supports to one degree or another, and ask yourself does your version of God support these things) Now if there is a vast difference between your version and mine, ask yourself now IF Drich was right would His version of God support my version of God be confirming one of my petitions or prayers?

The answer is no. The God of the bible is a 'Jealous God.' And essence you are worshiping a completely different 'deity,' that happens to share the same title or name.

Now does this mean people of your original denomination go to Hell? No of course not, because if their is atonement when we willfully sin their is greater atonement when we mess up doing our best to love God. However this does not mean God is going to open the flood gates of Heaven's blessings either. If he did by the time you got to heaven you'd be so ingrained in your corrupt beliefs you would not know who God is.

So God sends the winds and rains to wash away your beliefs Because YOU prayed for Him to do so. Now all you need to is approach him, and be ready to build a picture of God on who the bible says he is rather than the version you have confirmed that does not exist. If you do this He will help you build a faith based on 'Proof.'