(May 16, 2016 at 7:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Drich thinks they are the only one who would suffer pushback from family and friends if they start having doubts. What a load of "poor me" garbage. You think that would be bad Drich? Try expressing doubt in Iran or Saudi Arabia like Atlas. And even if you don't a have any doubts Drich, in many places in that part of the world merely talking to a perceived enemy can get you murdered.
We really don't want to hear it Drich, I have been at this 15 years and cannot tell you the countless stories of especially teens at home, who live in fear of being thrown on the streets. How many get shouted at and some sent to "therapy" because of "concerned" family. And I am sure the transgendered here can tell you the harassment and fear they have to go through.
You aren't getting anything but a "bullshit" from us. Nobody here wants you dead, nobody is going to have you arrested for merely saying things we think are crazy. And you have been on this board for YEARS, so your "poor me" act isn't going to wash here.
WE do want you going down that path, no, not a path to depression, or addiction, or lawlessness, just REASON. And yes, some family and friends wont understand at first, but if you play your cards with them right and don't start fights over it, the ones who really love you do adjust.
My younger sister came out 4 years ago and for a while our biological family flipped out, but have since calmed down and simply don't discuss it but talk about other things.
Our problem has never been with every theist of every religion in the world, but the idea of it itself, and the idea that old mythology is still relevant in our modern world. What screws up human logic, isn't that religious people cant have empathy, but they base their logic on old antiquated social norm and refuse to adapt to changing times.
Yes, leaving any religion has social consequences especially within a right wing family in a right wing society, and all religions have their conservative pockets up to entire nations. Babies are NOT born with a religion, the adults pass it down to them. Most humans simply adapt the the religions of the societies they are born into.
There is no cosmic sky dictator that will reward you or punish you with the revenge of eternal torture. You CAN live a very happy life, yes you would still have ups and downs, and yes, even some family and friends might leave you. But living in a mental prison is what we refused to do. It was tough for many of us, I was relatively lucky myself, because my mom merely thought it was a phase. But I have lost friends and even my biological older brother because of their attitudes to me. I have been shouted at on a couple of occasions and even had a guy try to fire me.
Atheist families have had their kids kicked out of school, I knew a guy who got kicked out of his apartment. But in the Middle East in many places, they would murder BOTH you and I for even a peep.
We don't want you dead, or even depressed. All we have been trying to do is pull your head out of that book and think for yourself for once. But your pity party act wont work here and you should know that by now.
WFT was that about?
How does it have anything to do with what I said or what alpo said?
