RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 8:55 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2016 at 8:57 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
Let me try to be a bit more kind about it, and explain why I used the example of snowflakes.
They do have the appearance of design, since each is unique and intricately crafted in beautiful patterns. If I did not know Atomic Theory, or even what an electron was (let alone what a covalent bond was, or that the oxygen "bent" the hydrogens because of two pairs of free non-bonding electrons) I might say that the snowflakes had to have a designer. We don't say anything like that, now, because we have discovered the mechanism for creating snowflakes.
What you are essentially doing, here, is looking at snowflakes under a (newly-invented) microscope in the year 1590, and saying "Look how complicated and amazing these snowflakes are!... Clearly, and intelligent Someone designed them individually!"
They do have the appearance of design, since each is unique and intricately crafted in beautiful patterns. If I did not know Atomic Theory, or even what an electron was (let alone what a covalent bond was, or that the oxygen "bent" the hydrogens because of two pairs of free non-bonding electrons) I might say that the snowflakes had to have a designer. We don't say anything like that, now, because we have discovered the mechanism for creating snowflakes.
What you are essentially doing, here, is looking at snowflakes under a (newly-invented) microscope in the year 1590, and saying "Look how complicated and amazing these snowflakes are!... Clearly, and intelligent Someone designed them individually!"
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
