(May 25, 2016 at 9:16 am)Kingpin Wrote:1. Oh, it's not factual? Well, if none of the stuff the bible says about god is factual (and disproving one thing does disprove it all) then what's left?(May 24, 2016 at 7:27 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: This a.m. I was thinking about how some theists and agnostics challenge atheists to prove that god does not exist. Many, myself included, content ourselves with the knowledge that the burden of proof is on the positive statement. But I was thinking about it further and hit upon the obvious proof that god, as the bible and the Church presents him, does not exist and cannot exist.
How? I’ve never been off this continent, much less in every place in the universe. So how do I know that god does not exist in a place I’ve never been?
Simple.
God, we are told, is omnipresent. But if there’s a place where god does not exist, then he is not omnipresent. I don’t have to go everywhere in the universe. All I have to do is find one place where god does not exist to prove that an omnipresent god does not exist anywhere.
1. You are presupposing omnipresence to be factual.
2. By your test you did not prove God does not/cannot exist, only that "God" is not physically omnipresent.
3. I agree with Minimalist actually. I always wonder why some of those who do not believe work so hard to convince others of their unbelief.
2. If god is going to hold us responsible for believing he exists, it is only right that he make his existence something we can perceive. But he has not and that is why there is so much religious confusion, sects and denominations.
3. As long as Christians are out there twisting the truth so that their lies are not always readily apparent, atheists will be out there challenging these lies and unmasking the illogic and hideous bible verses that Christians will never show people. Claiming that you don't understand this is not going to change that.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
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I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.