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Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god

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RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god

May 27, 2016 at 6:19 am (This post was last modified: May 27, 2016 at 6:23 am by robvalue.)

So our friend here went from being an atheist who believes the universe exists, to a theist who believes the universe exists but calls it God?

I don't see the difference, or the point. I could call the universe Jimmy Four-Legs, then I'd believe in that too.

It feels like a way to slip some woo in the back door via an equivocation fallacy. Why you'd want to do that, I don't know. It's using "God" to mean both the universe, and to imply a load of other things via a different, well known meaning,

But far be it from me to tell people what they should call things. If it makes you happy my friend, you go for it Smile

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Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god - by Blueyedlion - May 27, 2016 at 3:43 am

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