(May 25, 2016 at 10:15 pm)Thena323 Wrote:(May 25, 2016 at 4:14 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: I thought that was the whole point of calvinism, "god hates the rest of yiz, but he loves me and my homies. No matter how depraved we get (and we go pretty low) we gets to heaven, no matter how good yiz are ye gets hell."
Calvinism, yes.
I would say not really, as far as own my take use to go, though. As a theist, I spent most of my churchgoing years attending Pentecostal services, but I was always left with the impression that atonement was likely limited to some degree from my own personal study/interpretation. I'd always believed that one could reject the call to salvation, though. And lose it, as well.
None of it makes any sense to me these days, anyhow; I can't make heads or tails of it anymore.
That is where I differ from calvinism as well in that one can indeed reject the call to salvation.
That said i do not believe we can loose our salvation. However I do not believe we are 'saved' at the moment we typically think. Saved as outlined in scripture always points to a comming event. "you will be saved.." ect. I believe salvation comes at the verdict of your judgement. Once you are saved (from judgement onward) you can never loose your salvation.
