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Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god
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RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god
Welcome from the UK. For your very first thread, I have to warn you, you've really picked a subject that you're not going to get a lot of distance with before you face ridicule. It's already started to happen. You say you're arguing 'on behalf of a friend' but increasingly your language is personalised. That has not scored you honesty points.

(May 27, 2016 at 7:58 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: Since science is slowly discovering that the brain doesn't create consciousness, then that implies matter is the expression of the mind. Consciousness is what the mind can grasp. If you like i can link you to a case where a neurosurgeon went into a coma for a week, lost the function of his prefrontal cortex and most of his brain and still had awareness he described vividly as ultra-real, more real this this reality
Nonsense. This is a bald-faced lie followed by an assertion from personal testimony. All reliable evidence regarding consciousness demonstrates that it's a by-product of brain activity. No active brain, no consciousness. I challenge you to find one single example of any of the attributes of consciousness being demonstrated by something without a brain.

Quote:Satan is biblical. You know i dont think any of you are in any way aware that there are religions outside Christianity. In no way do i believe what books about god say, they're irrelevant, period. Satan is a character from a book. Religion is not the only belief that's worth discussing just because when you think god in the west, you think Jesus. However whether you belief in god or not, you're still correct in being an athiest or jew or what ever because when you die, you wake up to it all anyway in another dimension. What proof of this is there? 
You require proof here...

Quote:Book: Pim van Lommel - consciousness beyond life
book: wilder penfield mystery of the mind


...but clearly not here. The above are fully debunked nonsense speculations, the product of some seriously interesting imaginations but not of fact. Seriously, they don't even count as reasonable hypotheses. There's literally nothing to them other than the assertions of advocates.

Quote:Or, you could expand the definition to encompass a new deeper meaning Wink

Once you find that the material does not confine consciousness, but is only a mechanism for consciousness to flow and experience through, only then does it become obvious that the universe is an ocean of thought
No. You don't get to do that. Trying to redefine a word in that way is simply dishonest. I'll repeat: All reliable evidence regarding consciousness demonstrates that it's a by-product of brain activity.
Sum ergo sum
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RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god - by Ben Davis - May 27, 2016 at 9:58 am

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