RE: Can a xtian god be free?
April 18, 2011 at 4:18 am
(This post was last modified: April 18, 2011 at 4:33 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(April 17, 2011 at 2:53 pm)Zenith Wrote: Don't worry. I am also usually busy and can't answer too quickly (perhaps the next day I would reply will be the next week). As long as you reply and I get notified by email, I would answer you back.
To be honest with you, I sat and read the Old Testament too (in my language, I can't understand many words in KJV even now, but I think some words have changed their meaning in time, and I don't believe in a perfect translation) and I did find sadism, rape (If I remember well, there was a son of David that raped his sister - it appears that she was not a daughter of his father or of his mother), unfair things, polygamy (though it's funny that the Western world forced monogamy as it christianized). The fact is that, if in the Bible all people were presented as "good", as doing only "good" and "holy" things, or people that do "only good" versus people that do "only bad", and how "good" wins, I would have called it a fairytale from the start. But the very fact that people are presented doing bad things, makes their story sound plausible.
My idea was a commandment in the Bible to teach beating the wife or child molestation, because I'm 100% certain that there is no commandment like that. If you are really interested in continuing this discussion, google about it, perhaps you find something that 'escaped' me. As about misogyny, I know that bad treatment of women happens in the christian world (preachers always talking about the obligations of women and how they should be like, but never talking about how husbands should be, etc.), but we're not talking about people, we're talking about commandments (and alike), in the bible.
I am unaware of which language you speak Zenith so please accept my apologies for asuming you speak and read english. The linky below is for the Ten Commandments (wiki has a translator) and compares them between the three major abrahamic religions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
As for the other referrences ...they are scattered throughout the whole of the bibile/ torah/qu'ran and these will take much more of my time to track down...time I really don't have. Perhaps you may find the link below helpful as it goes into great depth regarding the abrahamic religions
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/time.html
This one in particular
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/execution-1.html
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5