(May 28, 2016 at 6:45 am)Thena323 Wrote:(May 27, 2016 at 9:18 am)Drich Wrote:
That said i do not believe we can loose our salvation. However I do not believe we are 'saved' at the moment we typically think. Saved as outlined in scripture always points to a comming event. "you will be saved.." ect.
Yep:
Romans 10:9 (KJV) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Quote: I believe salvation comes at the verdict of your judgement. Once you are saved (from judgement onward) you can never loose your salvation.
Romans 10:10 (KJV) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Salvation is only the means by which one is saved, IMO; Easily lost or forfeited.
That was my take, anyway.
Green: quote from Dripshit, in case it's unclear.
Hey Dripshit! Jesus (supposedly) said:
Matthew 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
So Jeebus Crisp in the KJV is the authority, apparently. Well good. Because I was baptized, saved and sanctified, re-baptized, and all of that bullshit. But YAY!! Ju-HEEZ-us gives me an out. So here we go: the HOLY SPIRIT does not and has never existed. It was made up by men. But JUST IN CASE I still have believer stain in me somewhere, the HOLY SPIRIT is an impotent, incompetent, and idiotic pile of shit!!!! There. My salvation should be sufficiently erased. Whew. Dodged a bullet, might have gotten sent to the non-existent heaven or hell after I kick the bucket.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein