(May 31, 2016 at 4:26 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:(May 30, 2016 at 7:24 pm)SteveII Wrote: "Nature is the sum total of reality" You are asserting that nature is all there is. Why do you get to assert that? Science does not make that claim (it can't make metaphysical claims). So what reasoning do you have for saying that supernaturally caused events cannot and do not happen. Please try not to make your claim circular (they don't happen because they can't happen).
Because it is axiomatic you dunce. If we allow the existence of one being outside of reality how can we say other such beings, like Brahma, Nuggan, Sauron, Loki or Q don't also exist?
If you want your god to be able to affect nature from outside nature, then you've got to accept the reality of all other beings who have been proposed that can do the same and who have the same evidential basis (which, as we're starting from god is 0).
So, no you don't have a reason that isn't circular. Your argument If God, then gods, to be polite, your conclusion does not follow from the premise. If there were metaphysical and physical evidence for any of those other gods you mentioned, we could consider them. By your own admission there is none.
