Can't prove the supernatural God

[Ignorant]

Okay! Well, how do we distinguish between what something can do according to its natural power, and what is supernatural? [1] How can we be sure that a slug can't always create a universe, but it's just a rare occurrence? [2]

It seems to be a possible fallacy here to say it's doing something it "can't do". [3] If we observe it doing something, then it's done it. It's capable of it. [4] So what's the difference between what something can naturally do, and what it can do? [5] If there's no difference, then nothing supernatural can ever happen. If there's some difference, how do we objectively distinguish them? [6]

Or maybe you're suggesting there must be some other agency involved to make up the difference? [7]

But then... a rabbit can't naturally glow in the dark. But I screwed with it, and now it glows in the dark! What's the difference? How is this not now supernatural? [8] If a slug created a universe one day, then clearly slugs can do that according to whatever nature they have at the time, even if it's being screwed with in order to make it happen. [9]

Again, kudos for an actual discussion and not a "everyone knows what natural is" cop out that I normally get plastered on my face [10] 

1) This is a good question, and the usual arguments against the supernatural (in the colloquial sense) apply here. In short, more advance and precise methods of investigating the natures of things (namely, the scientific method) have more clearly identified the natural boundaries of different things' abilities.

2) According to what we know about slugs, they don't create universes on their way to becoming fully slugs (I'd hope you wouldn't dispute that). Creating a universe is not something a slug does, as a slug, and in order to continue being a slug, or to grow into a fuller slug. If we ever did observe a slug creating a universe (I wouldn't hold your breath), see the 4 possibilities I mentioned in this post. In the meantime, I don't need to remain agnostic about a slug's universe creating powers. Slugs do everything slugs need to do to be slugs without creating a universe in the process.

3) Right, so let me clarify: "They can't by nature" create a universe. How do I know? Because they are slugs (i.e. they naturally act as slugs) without having to creating a universe. 

4) Exactly. The more we observe it and study it, the more we discover and learn about its nature. Thank you scientific method.

5) See #3. There is no difference between what it can naturally do and what it can do by nature. If the thing does something that was previously thought to be beyond its nature, scientific investigation must begin. If the act is within its natural powers, then it must be the case that the scientific method can discover this power.

6) A much more difficult question. The first tip is that we observe something happen in a way that nature does not typically bring it about. For example, a person who is blind from birth might begin to see perfectly all of a sudden. The natural human ability to self-repair certain parts of the body does not typically come about "all-of-a-sudden", much less does it come about at all regarding blindness. The relevant investigations may, or may not show the natural process of self-repair acting at a rate and capacity which is "beyond its nature". 

Does this mean they are "divine acts" or miracles? No. It just means that, in this instance, somehow, an action was brought about in a way which went beyond the natural abilities of the relevant entities. 

7) I am not suggesting this, but it does beg the question... how can a natural thing do something that is beyond its nature's ability? I do not propose an answer here, I am mere helping distinguish between natural and supernatural because I think the modern distinction (nature as the cosmos and super-nature as everything else) is a dead end.

8) Because the "nature" was altered (as was your original question about the subject). It is now making glow-in-the-dark fur naturally. If you were able to give rabbit this ability without any change or violence to its nature, then it might be said to be acting supernaturally.

9) That isn't so clear. In the rabbit example, you were asking if we could alter something's nature. I said it seemed so, and gave the glow-in-the-dark rabbit example. A slug who just happens to create a universe may have been given that power supernaturally, or its nature might have been altered. We can't tell merely by the observation. We need to investigate.

10) Well none of us has it all figured out. Most of us behave that way because we are trying to figure it out too. Always a pleasure!