(April 19, 2011 at 12:52 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote:Padraic Wrote:Seems to me the arguments in this thread about open borders is a strawman.- VS -
Padraic Wrote:I don't see what that has to with the poor bastards sneaking across the borders hoping for a better life.
Because everyone who sneaks across our borders are poor bastards hoping for a better life.
Thanks for adding to the Strawmen.
I don't see where Padraic made a straw man - unless you wish to count offhand comments that are accurate to a degree as a straw man. Ironically, he agreed partially with the act of securing the border.
Here, let's deconstruct his post, as it seems certain individuals would rather "call out" others while not actually responding to their arguments.
(April 19, 2011 at 12:39 am)padraic Wrote: I'm an uninvolved outsider,and really don't care a whole lot about US domestic issues, unless they effect my country.Neutral statement here.
(April 19, 2011 at 12:39 am)padraic Wrote: Seems to me the arguments in this thread about open borders is a strawman.Observation/opinion. Not much to attack or defend here.
(April 19, 2011 at 12:39 am)padraic Wrote: The murders mentioned seem to be about the drug cartels (professional criminals) getting their panties in a bunch.Possibly true. I don't see where this observation could be false.
(April 19, 2011 at 12:39 am)padraic Wrote: I don't see what that has to with the poor bastards sneaking across the borders hoping for a better life.Observation - unless one has information to the contrary that shows a significant link between said poor bastards and cartels and/or the poor bastards are an insignificant factor in dealing with the border question.
(April 19, 2011 at 12:39 am)padraic Wrote: I do not support open borders between countries*,but I do support realistic and humane policies. Seems to be hard balance,and one the US has not yet mastered. (neither has Australia)Opinion once again. Nothing to defend or attack.
(April 19, 2011 at 12:39 am)padraic Wrote: *the impression I get is the open border policy in the EU has been an unmitigated disaster.
Appears to agree that open borders is a disaster, ergo we can see that he in some way supports securing a border, to which degree may or may not be determined.
Conclusion:
Your (reverendjeremiah) claims of a strawman are rather weak in this thread and context.
