Can't prove the supernatural God

[Pat Mustard]

If people want to say I can't prove there is no "supernatural" things, they are correct. Especially since I don't even understand what it's meant to be. I have no need or desire to, especially since that's a rigged scenario.

But that doesn't mean it does exist, or that it's reasonable to believe that it exists, whatever the fragging hell it is.

However; simply believing that there is stuff we have no idea about going on, that we may or may not learn about in the future, is perfectly reasonable in my opinion. There's no need to make it sound like magic.

Why does it have to sound magical? 

If some thing (T) is acting/being in a way that does not derive from its nature (Nt), it must be acting/being according to some other thing (X) with a NATURE (Nx). 

Thing (T) is therefore acting/being supernaturally (i.e. supernatural relative to T's nature (Nt)). But the action itself is only supernatural in relation to thing T, and not in itself (i.e. relative to Nx).

Relative to (Nx), it is not supernatural at all, but natural.

So it might be the case that X naturally causes T to act/be in a way that T is not able to act/be naturally (i.e. by its own nature).

What is magical about that?

If something is acting in a certain way in the real world then, ipso facto, it is acting naturally. Just because we don't have a natural explanation for something it doensn't follow that we can call it supernatural.

Nearly every single activity that theists ascribed to gods, such as thunder, crop cycles, rain, sunrise sunset and even gravity have been subsequently shown to be purely natural phenomena. And even witb the few areas we're not sure of yet most have plausible natural explanations, e.g. the creation of the universe and abiogebesisboth have multiple explanations which are natural and plausible given our current knowledge.

The problem with the appeal to the supernatural for believers is that it essentially an admission that they have no explanation and no evidence. It is an admission that they are holding a value to be truthful despite the evidence.