RE: Dear Moderate Muslims
June 12, 2016 at 6:11 pm
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2016 at 6:12 pm by Regina.)
(June 12, 2016 at 6:03 pm)abaris Wrote:(June 12, 2016 at 5:58 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I don't see why that's "judgmental" to point it out, it's observations. I'm not talking about assuming an individual Muslim is anything before I know them personally, that's just you saying that.
It's judgmental because I've seen all of it. The elderly couple taking their shopping home and sharing their load. The couple where she was wearing a Hijab, but they were joiking and punching each other while laughing at the sub. And the ones where the woman had to walk three steps behind the husband/owner.
There's no broad brush. And, as I keep pointing out, there is no muslim culture. As opposed to certain people, who have been to Indonesia. Bosnia is different from Turkey, as Turkey is different from Iran, as Iran is different from Marocco. Just to name a selsct few of all the different cultures there are. Which even are divided within themselves.
Ok and where exactly are we disagreeing here? In your first paragraph you basically said what I said, re-worded, about there being real moderates as well as radicals and conservatives. That's exactly what I said before.
All I'm saying is that a lot of the time Muslims who are not moderate get described as "moderate" because they're seen as relatively more moderate than the radicals. That's not me saying "no Muslims are moderate", that's me saying that Muslims who are not moderate get described as "moderate". You're just putting words in my mouth, I'm not even convinced you're not trolling at this point.
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