(June 13, 2016 at 11:38 pm)ignoramus Wrote: To the theists here.
We all get our morals from the same place.
The bible has the capacity to adjust them. Sometimes for better, most times in a divisive way.
Religion or belief in a higher being is a noble philosophical pursuit, but absolute power corrupts absolutely, which has resulted in a net sum of good done by religion to be in the negative.
This is why we are better off without it.
People are killing each other for "real" reasons. Why do we need people do kill for other reasons also?
ignoramus,
It appears by what you said in that there is a willingness to be unbiased.
Where may you think morals come from ?
I think we may both agree that the pursuit of increase in wisdom and knowledge is noble if not done with conceit and in that conceit wanting to show others what is thought is wisdom.
I've been up a long time so need a rest now, I may add some more later.