Orlando shooting/The non gun debate

[Drich]

one that has a been investigated and been visited by the FBI should not be able to get a weapon.

I disagree with you here, and the problem I have with this argument is the same one I have against people who argue that Clinton shouldn't be allowed to run for President because she's being investigated by the FBI.

An investigation is nothing without an actual conviction. There are plenty of investigations which end with no charges filed, so to deprive a person of rights simply because they are under an investigation flies in the face of "innocent until proven guilty". The fact is, in this case, the FBI not only investigated the shooter, but they decided against pursuing charges, presumably because they had no actual evidence he was planning on doing anything.

This probably happens far more than people realize, and most times the person is actually not a criminal and nothing bad happens. This unfortunately wasn't one of these times.

Another reason I don't think it is a good idea is that investigations by the FBI of this nature are often secretive, as in, the person being investigated isn't aware of the investigation. If that person went to buy a gun and got rejected, they would likely want to know why, and may conclude that they are being investigated, which would put them in a state of alert that might cause them to try and leave the country.

A better system would be some kind of monitoring list, where names of people who have been investigated in the last X years are added, and when they try and buy a gun, a notification gets sent to the person in charge of the investigation, who can then decide whether or not this is indicative of a threat to national security.

While I agree an investigation should not restrict any of our rights, i do think that if one is being investagated for something like terrorism, they should be monitored. if such a person should start to buy tools or supplies that would indicate a possible bomb being made, or an attack of any kind then they should be further questioned if not followed.

If the dude gets cleared then he should be left alone as with the case of this guy.

We must simply accept there can be no society who up holds freedom of it's citizens that will be completely free from attack from them. Those who die at the hands of people like this here in Orlando, Paris or Belgium are the civil cost of a free society.

If you want to mitigate risk do not introduce any new variables, that said we will never be able to eliminate the home grown risk without subjugating our citizens.