Orlando shooting/The non gun debate

[KevinM1]

Yeah, it sucks that a minority population is going to use the worst mass shooting in our nation's history to, you know, unify and try to get people to not murder them any more.  That's a dastardly agenda those LGBT folks have.

But, the war islam/isis is waging is not against that minority population, it's against all of us.

That's the digusting thing here. They are taking something that should be an afront to all americans and making specifically about anti gay sentiment.

How is this Not political propaganda?

If a political group is allowed to bend the facts to suit their agenda for any reason then things like truth are superseded by a "justifiable reason."

Thank goodness that Nothing in the History of man (1930's germany) has ever pointed to that sort of twisting of the truth for the sake of political propaganda has ever resulted in anything bad happening

What you're conveniently forgetting is that this guy isn't an ISIS fighter.  Remember: he claimed he was doing it for disparate groups.  Al-Qaeda and ISIS are enemies - pledging allegiance to both, as well as saying the Tsarnaev brothers were his 'homeboys' clearly indicates that he was just namedropping for the sake of it.

I mean, this guy used gay dating apps.  He visited Pulse looking to hookup.  It's pretty clear from his pattern of behavior that he was gay, felt regret/guilt about it due to his Muslim heritage, and hated them for making him feel a certain way.

It's a completely different scenario than San Bernardino, where the shooter was definitely killing in the name of ISIS.

This guy, Mateen, could've hit any soft target.  He scoped out Downtown Disney, which has absolutely zero security, but chose Pulse instead.  Why?  Because it was an LGBT club.  So, yeah, homophobia was at the heart of the shooting.  

And are you really trying to make the factual statements that:

1. This guy purposely targeted a LGBT club in order to eliminate a certain kind of people
2. This guy, despite being on a FBI watch list for several years before being cleared, was able to obtain a firearm with ease

Controversial?  You're trying to equate it with Nazi propaganda?  Really?