(June 17, 2016 at 1:17 pm)madog Wrote:(June 17, 2016 at 1:10 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: Jesus Christ may be compared to a situation where someone must be murdered in order for someone else to survive.
For example a parent and a child.
Do you think the parent should be willing to be murdered to save their child ?
--But he wasn't murdered he committed suicide, he knew his actions would lead to his own death.--
Do you think there are no situations where it is pointless to fight back to stop being murdered ? Do you think that a parent who sacrifices themself doesn't know they are going to die ?
--There is a big difference from throwing yourself on a grenade to save your friends when being unaware that the situation would arise ... than creating the situation whereby the grenade is thrown so you can be considered a hero--
You may think that in Christianity vain glory is discouraged. Do you think no one has ever sacrificed themselves without seeking vain glory ?
Do you think the world shouldn't have happened because some people might do evil ? Or do you think the good people should be given the opportunity to live and not let the evil people have victory ?
madog, you may look at my answers above.