RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim?
June 17, 2016 at 4:36 pm
(This post was last modified: June 17, 2016 at 4:37 pm by Ignorant.)
(June 17, 2016 at 11:30 am)madog Wrote: In my experience Christians tend to state that their "Jesus" chose to allow the crusifiction and had the power to stop it? [1]
Is that suicide or delusion? [2]
People do envoke suicide by willfully making a sudden threatening move when in the sights of police marksmen to knowingly end their own life ....
Personally I find that a cowards way out, as they could have ended their own life without involving others .... [3] Apparently this "Jesus" character could have saved his own life with Woo as some other suicide victims could have saved their own life by not making a sudden move .... [4]
Dog.
1) Yes. Mt 16:22-23; Mt 26:51-54 and other related texts expressing similar ideas.
2) Obviously, I think neither is the case. There is at least the additional option of "sacrifice" to bring about some effect. No one takes his life, Jesus lays it down freely (Jn 10:18).
3) That's fair enough, but the others involved might reveal something about our reality (clearly, you don't think any of it reveals anything at all, much less about reality, so I realize this point won't mean much to you).
4) Sure. The narrative, instead, tells us that he lays down his own life. He could have snapped his fingers and all was forgiven. He could have farted out a ham sandwich as the way to reconcile the world to God. Instead, he went with torture and execution at the hands of the Romans at the behest of the Jewish authorities. He chose this way to communicate something to us about ourselves and about God.