RE: Why the religious will never admit you won the argument (and why they don't care)
June 17, 2016 at 4:42 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 2:57 pm)madog Wrote:(June 17, 2016 at 2:36 pm)SteveII Wrote: How can you say "15% try to fit in with their community"? You have just ascribed a reason to a person's conversion that you have no way of knowing.
It was shorthand .... some could take up a religion to get into a preferred school, some because their minority religion makes them a target, so they continue with a more acceptable woo for their environment ... on and on ....
But using a deeply Christian nation and conversions to the main woo of that nation is a cop outYou can't use that nation as an unbiased experiment that would lead to empirical evidence ...
No we can't do an experiment with children totally shielded from all the Woo in the world and see how many would then believe in woo or any particular woo, but we can see that raising kids shielded from one woo and indoctrinating them with a different woo will usually lead them rejecting that woo and believing in the woo they were indoctrinated with ....
It boils down to the likely hood of anything shouldn't be decided by the indoctrinated or at least those that still hold on to that indoctrination ... as we know the likely hood that they will believe in their indoctrination is high.
So again figures for a non Christian community or nation?
The answer I gave Rhythm applies again: That might be a point to consider if it was not for the fact that in almost every country on earth, Christianity is the religion adults convert to--regardless of the population makeup.
From the wiki article in my previous response. I will bold the pertinent points. How many of these communities were dominated by Christians?
- According to the World Christian Encyclopedia, approximately 2.7 million converting to Christianity annually from another religion, World Christian Encyclopedia also cited that Christianity rank at first place in net gains through religious conversion.[9]
- Studies estimate significantly more people have converted from Islam to Christianity in the 21st century than at any other point in Islamic history.[10] Conversion into Christianity have also been well documented, and reports estimate that hundreds of thousands of Muslims convert to Christianity annually, significant numbers of Muslims converts to Christianity can be found in Afghanistan, Albania,[11] Azerbaijan,[12][13] Algeria,[14] Belgium,[15] Bulgaria,[16][17] France,[18] Germany,[19] Indonesia,[20]Iran,[21][22][23][24] Kazakhstan,[25] Kyrgyzstan,[26] Malaysia,[27] Morocco,[28][29] Netherlands,[30] Russia,[31] Saudi Arabia,[32] Tunisia,[33] Turkey,[34][35][36][37] Kosovo,[38] TheUnited States[39] and Central Asia etc.[40][41] Many of the Muslims who converts to Christianity faces social rejection or imprisonment and sometimes murder or penalty, for becoming Christians.[42]
- Data from the Pew Research Center that as of 2013, about 1.6 million adult American Jews identify themselves as Christians, most are Protestant.[43][44][45] According to same data most of the Jews who identify themselves as some sort of Christian (1.6 million) were raised as Jews or are Jews by ancestry.[44] Data from 2013, show that 64,000 Argentine Jews identify themselves as Christians.[46] According to 2012 study 17% of Jews in Russia identify themselves as Christians.[47][48]
- Due to conversion, the number of Chinese Christians has increased significantly; from 4 million before 1949 to 67 million in 2010.[53][54]
- Due to conversion, Christianity has grown in South Korea, from 2.0% in 1945[55] to 29.3% in 2010.[53]