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Do Christians worship a suicide victim?
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RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim?
(June 18, 2016 at 1:05 pm)madog Wrote:
(June 18, 2016 at 12:24 pm)Ignorant Wrote: 4) First, whatever I "know" about this original message is through faith in the message-as-transmitted-by-a-particular-community.  
I'll answer this as a whole ..... But as the faith card has been invoked I am pretty sure I will be talking to myself .... [1]

In short, an "Almighty God" sent an illiterate son to earth because it is claimed (loosely speaking) he wanted to teach man "the truth" and "save him" [2]

Apparently he gave this "son" some parlor tricks rather than the power or will to use the pen to personally record his/Gods message (literacy)  but left that to the flawed recipients of the message to Communicate to the rest of mankind  :Dodgy [3] 

1) I was trying to give you a full and honest answer about how I know something. It includes both historical criteria and data, as well as faith that a teaching is true. In the case of the former: that a given teaching is the most historically consistent with the first Christian community. In the case of the latter: the truth of the given teaching about Christ. That the first Christian community taught that Jesus freely gave his life in the passion, died, and was raised from the dead, all in connection with our reconciliation with God and future eternal life is true. I find that the particularly Catholic teaching on those subjects to be the most internally coherent and historically consistent. Did Christ suffer and die and rise from the dead in such a way that I am reconciled to God and am promised divine happiness? Anyone who claims to know that in any way other than faith is not speaking well. I was just trying to give a concisely comprehensive answer to the question you asked.

2) If Luke 4:17-21 can be trusted historically (which I am sure you would dispute), then he wasn't illiterate. Anyway, yes, God sent his Son because he wanted to teach man the truth and to save him.

3) And here we are, in spite of his flawed recipients, discussing that very message. Choose what you're criticizing, an actual message which could be subject to criticism (in which case your first post is intelligible) or a method of transmission you find inadequate (in which case your first post is poorly aimed).
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Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 11:30 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 12:02 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Chad32 - June 17, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Chad32 - June 17, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 2:10 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 6:37 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 18, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Ignorant - June 18, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 18, 2016 at 1:05 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Ignorant - June 18, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 18, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 18, 2016 at 6:03 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 18, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 20, 2016 at 10:16 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 21, 2016 at 8:02 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 21, 2016 at 8:40 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 22, 2016 at 8:08 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - July 6, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 20, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 20, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 20, 2016 at 8:08 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by emjay - June 17, 2016 at 4:58 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Silver - June 17, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Silver - June 17, 2016 at 8:02 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by emjay - June 17, 2016 at 8:05 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by dyresand - June 17, 2016 at 10:06 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Silver - June 20, 2016 at 1:26 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Silver - June 20, 2016 at 1:32 am
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Losty - June 20, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 20, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Losty - June 20, 2016 at 1:33 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - June 20, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - July 6, 2016 at 8:34 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by madog - July 7, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: Do Christians worship a suicide victim? - by Merzer - July 10, 2016 at 1:38 pm

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