(June 18, 2016 at 5:12 pm)madog Wrote: Whether the Jesus character was illiterate or not the story tellers chose parlor tricks and a suicidal extravaganza to Communicate the "God" characters message ... If "God" wanted his message clearly recorded he would have used his son to record his message not those that were already sinful in his eyes. [1]
The actual message, if it were true would have taken a page .... There was no need for the New Testament, as sects could have made up their own stories then interpreted them to suit their own agenda ... Oh wait they did that anyway[2]
We are here now discussing a fictitional characters message dreamed up from those flawed story tellers, [3] I dispute you have any verifiable Historical evidence :
1) Would he now? Interesting take given #3
2) Indeed they did. Can you name one of those sects and the community today that is historically continuous with it?
3) Yup, here we are. If we are discussing that message "as-it-was-dreamed-up", then it can't also be said to have been inadequately communicated over 2000 years. So like I said HERE, your beef is with the message, not its mode of transmission.
4) Do I have verifiable historical evidence that demonstrates that Jesus is the Son of God, rose from the dead, and that his death reconciles us to God? No.
Is there verifiable historical evidence regarding a continuously traceable teaching-about-Jesus extending from the Apostles to the present day within a particular community which is also historically continuous with the the community of the Apostles? Yes.
