(June 23, 2016 at 2:29 pm)abaris Wrote:(June 23, 2016 at 2:04 pm)Drich Wrote: I did mention community.. so what??? Do you speak for everyone outside orlando? If not your specific take/objections are meaningless, as they do not represent how people view the info being trickled out. Which means by taking offense or the role of 'the community' suggests that you do indeed rate yourself more highly than you should. My point stands (even if you don't understand them.)
If this is about not looking down on gay or transsexual people, yes I do view myself standing on higher ground than the ones feeling the cumpulsion for any reason. Looking down on others is always a sign of pettiness, be it for religious or nationalist reasons. Mostly it's just their prejudices being at the helm.
Well, maybe I'm looking down on people looking down on others. But I can live with that.
Hey stupid, YOU LOOKING DOWN ON ME!!! For supposedly looking down on them. (So I guess your self righteousness/looking down on people is ok when you do it)
I clearly pointed out two viable reasons for their possible actions, one was an honest mistake, the other was a heartless push for power. Take gay out of the senerio and you are still left with an honest mistake or a political movement using the deaths of 49 people to gain power. Say a radical anti abortionist blew up another clinic killing 49 people. what do you want discussed on the news? why these 49 people getting abortions died for their rights to get abortions and we should push new laws calling it a hate crime to target this segement of the community, or do you want to know about the group of radicals this guy came from, are they a threat, are they in the community?
That is why I attempted to move the conversation to what this country should be discussing is the Iranian Imam's visit to a central Fl Mosque a few weeks before the shooting that was calling for the deaths of all Gay people.
Are you so F-ing prejudiced against Christians that you do not know how to have a conversation with one without making them the bad guy???
If you weren't then maybe you primitive little cave man mind would have been able to put together what it is, that has alarmed me!
This shooter was a naturalized american born muslim. who had homosexual tendencies, and he was living the noral religiously oppressed life like anyone else would in his situation. Then you have a Imam just a few weeks before this shooting happen tell a Sanford (less than 15 miles from Pulse) congregation that "Death is the only way for homosexuals to have a chance of redemption. That they/muslims should not be ashamed of this, that we need to get rid of them' Meaning kill gay people. Then then the shooter stews for couple weeks and a switch is flipped in his head...
Do you not see that this makes ALL Muslims potential threats? Not that all would turn, but the fact that the Koranic doctrine supports this guys actions and goes so far as to offer him redemption for his homosexuality if he punished the wicked. More alarming anyone who takes the religion seriously has this avenue of 'Redemption' available to them. For any "death sentence" sin in the muslim faith. Like being raped, or not wearing the right cloths, or drawing pictures of allah or mo hammud. you know the important things.
This is what should be on the news, not a political movements power grab.
