RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the de...
July 2, 2016 at 12:53 pm
(July 2, 2016 at 12:43 pm)Lek Wrote:(July 2, 2016 at 5:50 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: A very sad conversation occurred. And it hurts. I hate talking about religion with my own family. Just because I highlighted the suffering I have to see as part of employment where I have to read many sad stories people have to send in as part of their application for their disabled person's parking badge. Apparently god sometimes uses cancer for the betterment of an individual I'm told. All humans have to suffer, but it's what you make of that suffering.
A recent story: New family just moved to England (Arabs, I think), they are just adjusting to life in a totally new country and they are burdened with a one year old baby who has spent almost their entire life in hospital. And says this is wrong means I'm speaking for the devil. Apparently pointing that out is an argument from ignorance.
I can't believe anybody would say this to me. All because I supposedly took Bible verses out of context and don't want to go Church. The devil is deceiving me apparently. I did cite the following verse:
"And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron."
— Judges 1:19
Apparently this part of god's "plan". I feel so horrible. Couple of days from now, I go on holiday to visit part of the family who think homosexuals are evil and that diseases only apparently after "the fall of mankind".
From my christian point of view I see it as a sad consequence of the sins of mankind, although suffering can make us stronger and better people. I would have compassion for them and try to provide whatever can be done for the child. Why do you say that this situation is "wrong"? From an atheistic point of view it just "is". We evolved to be a species who get sick and die. It's good to treat illnesses and try to eliminate them, but someone being sick is just the way it is. There is no higher reason why the baby has been sick. In this case, it's neither right or wrong, it's just sad.
Honestly i don't believe suffering makes us any better if anything is a hindrance. This is why science and technology is amazing
it fixes the issue of suffering instead of having people default into praying to get better they can take medications and get better and
surgeries. But in the case of god allowing suffering if said being existed no one should worship such a being nor praise it. I say it in the manner
because it would be a monster to allow such human suffering that it's own creations fixes their own problems such a being should not be respected
only thank to a some what limited degree for just starting life and nothing else. The issue of suffering is less of a issue now than it was fifty to sixty years ago
because of science and medical breakthroughs.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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