Refuting Christians with their Own Bible

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Loving god is nothing to do with morality. It's more to do with god's ego and neediness. In fact, the idea of loving god ahead of actual people is a very dangerous and immoral thing to do in my opinion. It's dangerous because you're compromising how you treat others for the benefit of a being which should require absolutely nothing from you, if it even existed.

It comes down to whether something is good because so and so said it is good, or because it's actually moral. In the first case it's circular and meaningless; in the second case, the authority is irrelevant. I figured out morality just fine on my own without having to read it in an ancient book. And it's no surprise that (nice) Christians ignore huge swathes of the supposed morality taught by their own book.

You don't need god for morality. You generally just need reason and empathy, as building blocks.